Entreprenuership, Affiliate Marketing, & Clickfunnels. Special Guest Paul Mottley

(Last Updated On: March 18, 2021)

We dive into Entrepreneurship, Affiliate Marketing, and Clickfunnels in Episode #14 with special guest Paul Mottley.

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Entreprenuership, Affiliate Marketing, & Clickfunnels. Special Guest Paul MottleyPaul Mottley loves helping others make money with affiliate marketing. He teaches methods including SEO(search engine optimization), Youtube marketing, Social Media Marketing, and paid traffic.

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EPISODE #14 PODCAST TRANSCRIPT

My Beautiful Wife

Thank you for listening to the Freddy O Show, a podcast devoted to you, the listener, your purpose, your mindset, and your marketing efforts. Designed to help you go to that next level. Now, here's your host, Freddy O 

Freddy Owen  

Super pumped to have Paul motley on the day; Paul, welcome to the Freddy O Show. 

Paul Mottley  

Hey, dude, how's it going?

Freddy Owen  

What's up, so we just talked before the intro, but we talked about dogs. And he has a Doberman. And I have before recording this, my, my dogs, they never have done this before. But right when I start talking, I don't know if I said a secret word. Maybe the words Paul, they start barking, and they just don't stop. I love them. I love them. I got two black labs and a Dalmatian. That Dalmatian got out today. So today, it's a little bit crazy. But I'm super happy to have you on, Paul. And we're about to rock and roll. So, Paul, when you when did you first start getting? When did you first start working online? And how was the journey till now?

Paul Mottley  

Oh, man. That is a seriously loaded question. If I could remember the day, I don't know. But it's weird because I mean, I had my own business, right. And back then, I mean, we're talking like 24 years ago, when it first started out everything to do with building your business, getting leads and everything like that was all in print. So be local newspapers. Einstein, you guys, have white papers over there, which are business directories. We have like the yellow pages here. And, you know, flyers and all that good stuff. Even at some point, we even tried out radio, like local radio, which is pretty neat. But all of a sudden, like, this whole internet thing started happening. And then you noticed that you needed to have a website. So you know, and I was completely, you know, I guess I was just holding on to everything so tight. I wanted to do everything myself. When I started learning about how to put websites together and those mature in age, shall we say, will remember things like? I think it was like, was it Dreamweaver, and there was another Microsoft one front page? I think that's another one. Okay,

Freddy Owen  

so wait, so you've been in the industry? As far as you've been in the industry for 24 years?

Paul Mottley  

Well, no, that was just my own bricks and mortar business. This was so, you know, okay. If I was completely honest, I, I say I would have this entrepreneurial spark from a young age, right, our mid-40s now, and it all kind of started when even when I was like, 19. And I saw like, you know, some cutouts in the newspaper about making money on, you know, and stuff like that. And I remember sending off for a guide, one of them was Penny shares, right, and the other one was making money through real estate. And yeah, kind of like it. Over the years. Even though I was running my own business, I always had this side idea that I could do something else. And that I could progress that with something else and that turned into like network marketing, which when the whole internet blew up that then turned into affiliate marketing and all good stuff like that. So it's kind of like, you know, it goes a long way back, but it's developed because of the technology.

Freddy Owen  

It's a beautiful thing, though to think about it that you guess I've seen it like back when I first started 2012 everything's there are so many things have changed now. Yes, some for good, and some for the bad, but mostly it's for good. But it's also like the field has gotten a lot bigger with people getting in the industry, which is good. But yet, if you have the mindset of oh my gosh, all these people are trying to get in there. We're going to discuss that as far as people getting in. And why so many people fail a little bit later in this episode, but it's crazy because you got to see like the print ads, the first thing I started doing was when I was a kid, I loved like we would have a back in the day. This is back in the day. In the 1980s, I think was they had a hamburger cook-off, and I ended up wanting to put my hamburgers in the cook-off on my bike. I don't know if I if my brother or my sister, my brother were with me. And we're giving these people hamburgers. And my, I think my dad said Sunder rah. But I was so excited because I'm selling these hamburgers. They were selling real good because we were kids, but they were raw. But my point being is I've always had the same kind of entrepreneurial spirit as eBay. But when I was working at the dealership, I was doing eBay. Did you say penny stocks?

Paul Mottley  

Yeah, yeah, I've done that. It was called Penny shares. Yeah. And, and we remember buying some, we bought a mic, you know, got my dad involved in that as well, and a couple of family members. And we bought into, I think it was the only share I ever bought, which was a company, which I won't mention the name of, but it was a mining company, and they weren't even listed properly on the stock market, it was like separate to the stock market. So they hadn't even got to a point where they were doing really well. But they were mining in a part of the world, which potentially, they could find gold. Right. And so that's not.

Freddy Owen  

the same thing, same, same thing.

Paul Mottley  

So when the shares like it, if I do the conversion, roughly at about six or seven cents, you know, you could like, I don't know, if we put like $100 or $200, whatever it was at the time thinking, you know, if this hits, and it and it could go, you know, like Bitcoin did right? And you just think, oh, man; this could be like serious, this could be like, you know, paying for houses type of money. And what actually happened was, was very much nothing. And I just held on to that share for like, probably three or four years. And for some reason, I, you know, every so often, I would check and see what the price was because it was listed in in the paper, you know, along with the financial stuff. And I remember once, I've got to see when online started happening in that, and I got to see, like the history, there was one day where it shot up to like $5 a chef,

Freddy Owen  

really,

Paul Mottley  

something must have happened on that day. And then the following day dropped right down to 20 cents again, and yeah, I missed it.

Freddy Owen  

Well, now you can have, you know, with all the well, at least with, with the tools that we have now, I don't do any Penny shares anymore. I do some forex, but you can actually, you know, have a stop loss or take profit type thing. Oh, yeah, I think they had

Paul Mottley  

before all this type of stuff. Yeah. You actually had to, you know, make a phone call to buy or sell. Right. And so that was how that was, and you know, and the only update I got on the price was in the newspaper The next day. So it was, it was kind of crazy.

Freddy Owen  

It's crazy that, like that technology we have today. His kids

Paul Mottley  

are born, they don't know they're born.

Freddy Owen  

It's crazy how cool it is. So, your journey went online? And, you know, so you've always had that entrepreneurial spirit. So you go online? And was it? How was it at first?

Paul Mottley  

First, I mean, it was mostly it was kind of like the I loved the network marketing model. I loved the way that you can actually leverage your own time by teaching other people. And, you know, everyone got rewarded for their efforts. I love that model looks great. You know, I and at one point, I actually had a domain name because I ran a webinar every week. Online, we use I can't remember the software that was used back then, but you know, there was something out there available. And I ran a business opportunity presentation Wednesday nights at nine o'clock. And I did that for about eight months. Straight you know, and, and it was crazy, and the domain name was Wednesday, or Wednesdays 9 pm dot com. I think it was so something nice and easy for people to remember. Obviously, it meant nothing to anybody that wasn't in the UK because it was completely the wrong time for them. Which is something that I learned and figured out later, but yeah, it was kind of like doing that, and that was reasonably successful. You know, I wouldn't surprises, you know, got a free holiday and stuff like that out of it. But I was still had to focus on my main business. But as a consequence of that, because I had to learn all these things about my business. I then started noticing The tools and the software's and you know, like using email marketing and, and then Facebook came along and then you've got, you know, Google and ranking on to Google, you've got YouTube and people searching for stuff on that, you know, and it kind of spread from there. And yeah, that was kind of like how it all really started, I guess.

Freddy Owen  

What do you hate doing but know that it is a necessity to grow your business?

Paul Mottley  

Sharing Konya? Yeah.

Freddy Owen  

Why do you hate that?

Paul Mottley  

It's time-consuming, man. And I'm trying to automate as much as I can. But as yet, no one has brought out software that ticks all the boxes; I think I might have to actually get it. It made me. So it might mean going up to Upwork, or whatever the whatever people use these days, and actually talking to programmers and getting something that does exactly what I needed to do. Because if I'm doing a piece of content, let's say, for example, my podcast right now, yes, most of the time, if I'm doing it on my own, is just me a plugin mic on my phone, GarageBand, I hit record, I ping it to my Mac, I can load it up into my platform, which I use buzzsprout. And, you know, a couple of, you know, within half an hour, basically, I've sent it out, you know, I've downloaded a little soundbite of it, I don't edit it or do anything like that is completely raw. And sometimes, I find that's the best way to get information out of my head. And I do the podcast every day. So I need to make sure that it is as easy, and you know, as possible. And most days, I will ping it out to the soundbite. That is, you're putting it out onto Twitter or putting it out onto LinkedIn, as well. As soundbite will go out onto my Facebook page, not my profile, but my business page, also to Pinterest as well, which is crazy, because the last time I checked, I had like 54,000 impressions last month.

Freddy Owen 

Oh, yeah, big time. Yeah. Utilizing,

Paul Mottley  

you know, that's done, you know, it's a platform that I don't even use, but I figured well, okay, well, I've got the option to do it. But what I would like it to be able to do would be able to create a sort of like, it's still like a video soundbite if you like, I still like to be able to put that onto YouTube, I'd like to be able to put that out into a couple of other platforms all at the same time. And it's only recently that I managed to figure out how to link an RSS feed, which is automatically updated when you update if you like, which then goes out to my email list. So every day, when I upload, about half an hour later, the email goes out to let people know that the next episode is available. So yeah, there's nothing out there that does everything. There's a couple that would cover it. But again, why pay $30 a month to one company, another $30 to another company to get everything covered? I'd rather pay $50 to get everything done, right?

Freddy Owen

Absolutely. Oh, yeah.

Paul Mottley  

I want to do

Freddy Owen  

well, real quick. I don't know if you've ever heard of repurposed IO. If you have not, that's

Paul Mottley  

one of the ones that I've looked at. It doesn't do everything that I would like it to do because repurpose misses out on Pinterest. So and even then, it still sends files to Dropbox, which you then need to talk, you know, and hook it up to Zapier, which then will send out my this or that the other, it's not all connected. Now. There was something that was pretty amazing years ago when I started looking into video marketing. There's a couple of guys that I followed, one of which was a guy called Mike konex, who had the digital cafe you know, if you go and search YouTube, you go and find that you know, you had some big guests on there and he was really cool with it. He had Tony Robbins on it. And now it's a big thing back then, you know, it was kind of like the same sort of error as Seinfeld, and he brought out a program called mainstream marketing machine or something like that. And his program was called Traffic Geyser. And what traffic guys did was it did all that And, you know, things like, I don't think Twitter was around, then I don't think I don't even know Facebook was around them, you know, and in my space, my space probably wasn't, and all that sort of thing. But what it did was, when you create a video, it would transcribe everything, and it would cut it all up, and it would send it out to your blog, send it out here, there, and everywhere. And it was an amazing way to get content online. And, but obviously, the years passed, I think Mike ended up the company got acquired by another, you know, another larger company, if you like. They changed their dynamic completely in traffic guys, as we know, it disappeared. But yeah, you know, for entrepreneurs right now, especially if they are what we call solopreneurs, which either haven't got the order, don't want to pass out a vase, or they don't have the money to want to pass out to be as having something which automates would solve a lot of headaches. Because, you know, it's, it's difficult enough for a lot of people to try and create content, which is valuable and useful for others. But getting that out there as well, because, you know, it's like people listening to this podcast right now are most likely people who listen to podcasts; they might not be the people who happen to spend a lot of time on YouTube. So, you know, you've got to create your content, but then still serve a wider audience, rather than just saying, Okay, well, we're just going to do podcasts, we're only going to serve people who listen to podcasts, right? So you think, Okay, well, we need something now, which is going to serve people that like, you know, watching or listening to stuff on YouTube, for example, or they're like consuming content via a blog, you know, they either listen, see or hear. So you have to try and plug into that to increase your audience.

Freddy Owen  

Big time. And it isn't an easy task. That's why I think, let's just go to the question that I was going to ask you, why do you think so many people fail to make money online or fail to grow a business? I think, well, what's your answer to that?

Paul Mottley  

Sorry, what? What do people fail to make money online?

Freddy Owen  

Why do people so many people fail to make money online or actually to create a legitimate business?

Paul Mottley  

Um, there's a couple of ways of looking at that. And I know it might turn a lot of people off and alienate people. But the first way is that they give up too easily. And they're lazy.

Freddy Owen  

That's 100% of the first thing I was going to say,

Paul Mottley  

yeah, right on. And I know it's controversial in that, but there is hope. Because, I mean, I talk about this a lot, that you can get to a certain level by watching free stuff on YouTube, or, or free downloads via people's, you know, paid ads on Facebook, and you know, PDFs, and free webinars and all this good stuff. But until you actually reach your hand into your pocket and you pull your wallet out, you're not going to get the same level of either expertise or experience until you pay for it. One of the biggest differences that I've ever had in my business, and one of my primary income streams is the affiliate Commission's that I get from promoting Clickfunnels to the users is that I got coaching, right, I paid people for consultations, I went to the people, which had already achieved what I wanted to achieve so badly. And I thought I'm going to pay whatever they asked me to pay because I've already spent money on ads, on Facebook, on YouTube, on AdWords, on being all the pay platforms that were available to me right there and then and are bombed. And the reason being is because I wasn't doing exactly what I needed to do. So at that point, I had to remove myself from the equation, which is something that I found extremely difficult when I ran my own business because I was so used to doing everything myself. And, you know, went and got that and, and this actually reminds me a little bit of when, when our bricks and mortar business really took off was when I handed over a lot of the business to my partner. So I concentrated and focused on what I was really good at. And she took over everything else. I mean, it was a terrible organization. I was terrible with accounts. Mean, even like, within two weeks, she found invoices, which totaled I think it was like six or 7000, which hadn't been paid. And I hadn't changed up. So you know, my organizational skills back then were was atrocious. And I think when you actually admit to yourself, you can't do everything. That's when the change starts happening. And since then, I've gone from like doing, and I don't want to quote exact numbers, because probably not fair, but I was doing maybe anything between five and $600 a month. And let's just say it's more than ten times that now.

Freddy Owen  

That's fantastic. And the thing is, you're correct. I don't think it's controversial. I think it's just the fact that people need to realize this is that it might hurt some people's feelings. But that's not controversial. The fact is that people are lazy; they don't want to put the work in. And I 100% agree with you that you. You gave like your brick and mortar business, your partner, you gave her, you know, reins on what she did best. And you could focus on what you do best. And I have, I have two people that helped me virtual assistance, once not so virtual, he's my son. And he does my social media. And it's a learning curve for him, you know, and it's hard to like different differentiate between dad and you know, this, this, this is dad, but this is boss, and you need to do it this way. And he's cool about it. But like, there are a few times where you have to say, Listen, you need to do this, I have to remind you. But yeah, it's lazy. It's It's nuts. Because if you expect to have it, think about if we didn't have the internet, okay, you need a brick and mortar building, like my son really wants to do a potential, like food. He had a food idea, like for a restaurant. But he also said he was thinking about doing a food truck. I was like, food truck sounds so much better. And he goes, Well, I think I should have a brick and mortar place. Or that he's talking about having like a, like a hobby shop type thing. And I love the entrepreneurial spirit. But I'm like, and I would not do anything brick and mortar if you don't have to. Because right now, that place is getting shut down, left and right, and internet. Being online, the cost is a heck of a lot less unless you get lucky. So it's crazy that people are emphatically lazy. When I coach people a lot of times, and I say this with love because guess what, sometimes you gotta you got to pay people right between the eyes. So they realize that you want to have a business, you got to put in the work, it's gonna take time, it's gonna take money like you just said, you got to invest in yourself, because people will have no problem paying colleges 5060 $70,000 for four years, but they can't invest in themselves in an online business. And it's crazy to me. But I digress. I 100% agree with you. That is the number one reason why people.

Paul Mottley  

yeah, I mean, I want to talk about this. I mean, one of the things that I try and recommend people to do is, is not to invest in paid ads until they're earning at least $1,000 a month. And how they get there is, you know, you can use multiple ways. But I just want to cover a couple of stories, if you like is, you know, when I first started out with the whole Clickfunnels thing, it was purely business, but then I also had this idea that I was going to make my riches online and all this stuff. But we focus mainly on high ticket products. For our business, we use Clickfunnels to generate leads using Facebook ads as well and think the best result we ever had was like we spent like $400 on ads and made 42,000 and, and we ended up having to switch those ads off because we were getting so many inquiries, it was crazy. But if we really think about it, sometimes you can go through the process. And what I was doing at that time was initially I plugged into not just the Clickfunnels user group but also the affiliate group. And when I started noticing, and I started seeing the screenshots that people were putting out to motivate us and saying, look, this is what's achievable. This is how I've done so far etc. I mean, a couple of guys come to mention their Greg Jeffries, Dan Frigo Spencer Meachem, and they were all there and, you know, active and showing everybody, and I went through a process learning the software and figuring out how to do things. So anytime People started asking questions within the group. I was normally the first one there saying, Oh, yeah, this is how you do it. And you know, and I started spending loads of time with people either on zoom calls, I must have done hundreds of zoom calls, if not 1000s of direct messages, conversations, and stuff like that. And the point is that some people then came to me later on and said, Look, I actually don't even use the software yet. Can I get it from you, which was great? And that was kind of like, got me over the first $1,000 a month by doing that. But the story that I wanted to tell you is about implementation. I remember one person in a very specific way. And again, I'm not going to give an email; I was talking to him about a way that he could get a Clickfunnels account so that he could then resell it to other people and earn an ongoing recurring commission, which I think is still one of the most incredible ways to earn online, it's, it's just mind-blowing, the fact that you put the work in to start with and you get paid over and over and over again. Absolutely. And like, I don't know, too, three weeks messaging, backward and forwards, you know, five, six times a day with this person. And let's leave that there for a second. And I'm going to bring you back to the very first person I ever signed up for Clickfunnels, which was actually a personal trainer. He was actually my personal trainer at the time. And he was sick to death of doing one to ones in the gym. And because it was right at the start of my journey, as far as like affiliate marketing with Clickfunnels, for example, I started talking to him about that, because he was using another platform was doing very well for him. I knew how to build stuff. So I started helping with that. And it gave me a great excuse to get out of doing sets because I would just talk to him non stop the whole hour. We were there. And you know, and he would like to cut me off sometimes is okay, right? That's enough on to the next set and stuff like that. But he took what I talked to him about and implemented it. And there was another guy. A great guy, actually, and I'll mention his name because he's a superstar right now, RJ Ahmed. And I had a 45-minute phone call through Facebook with him and telling him how cool Clickfunnels was. He reached out to me, had a few questions. He tried doing some Shopify stuff; whether it worked for him or not, I can't remember. But we spent 45 minutes talking about how cool it was. Now, this was a big investment for him. Because at the time, it was like, you know, he was looking at spending $97 a month, and his semester a college was the equivalent of $100.

Paul Mottley  

Right? Does that sink in for a sec? And now, 100 hours, 100 hours.

Freddy Owen  

a month?

Paul Mottley  

None no night for the whole semester. Right. RJ was in Pakistan, right. So his college fees for the semester that.

Freddy Owen  

Okay, I think.

Paul Mottley  

And I was talking to him about some software, which was going to cost him $100 a month. And for obvious reasons, he was scratching his head.

Paul Mottley  

But

Paul Mottley  

what's happened is the guy that I spent all those weeks and months talking to; I checked back in with him probably about a year ago. He never did anything. He never implemented anything that I told him or taught him or showed him I built funnels for him. I sent it to him and everything else like that. Never do the thing. Right didn't happen for him. And he said are packed it all in and went back to my job. I thought, okay, my personal trainer. Now does group coaching online and earns more money than he ever did. Doing one on ones in the gym. And it is completely free from the gym. The only time he goes to the gym now is when he wants to go and work at himself. He can literally work from a laptop anywhere in the world. He has that option of the lifestyle that we all dream of. RJ he's now doing incredibly well online. And the last time I spoke to him was literally three days ago; he broke his own program and earned $1,000 in a day.

Freddy Owen  

It's a beautiful thing.

Paul Mottley  

It's incredible when you actually look back, and you think, You know, the impacts that you can give others far surpass anything that you can receive. You know, I, you know, it still blows me away now. And I just think to myself, yeah, I'm grateful for the $500 Commission today or, or Yeah, I'm grateful for you to know, this or tomorrow or yesterday or, or everything else like that the commission checks are amazing and it's super brilliant. But being able to impact other people's lives, you can't buy that sort of added.

Freddy Owen  

priceless. Yeah.

Freddy Owen  

And, thing, here's the thing, that's crazy. Because you know, you always have people out there. And I am in Clickfunnels, day in, day out. And I love Clickfunnels. And at one point in time, there was an issue with the whole COVID thing. It just seemed like things were taking a backseat certain things. And I was like, You know what, let me just look to see, because you always see a new funnel builder come out here and there. And I looked at him. And in my honest opinion, there is nothing better than Clickfunnels; they might have better, like different things that Clickfunnels doesn't have. But here's the thing. You know, Russell Brunson is, you know, I know he's part-owner of it. But you know, he's, he's deep into it. And he cares about the product. It's been around for years. And that's one of the biggest things that always made me wary of any kind of software is, how long are they going to stay interested?

Paul Mottley  

j made differences. The main difference is that Russell has created a movement, right? Around it. So yeah, just a piece of software, is everything that you get around it as well. Does that make Exactly,

Freddy Owen  

yes. And here's the thing, if somebody scoffs at $97 a month, that's $3.18 a day, look at what you spend in a day, whether you buy one or two cokes a day, you know, it, bottled water, the little things that you buy, that's not a lot of money, it really isn't $97 a month with the potential of not just being part of the affiliate program, but getting good enough that you can do coaching on it be you can make a digital product with it. See, you can actually build funnels for people for top dollar; the list goes on and on. And I truly agree with you that Clickfunnels is by far the best platform out there to build your business. I

Paul Mottley  

mean, obviously, we look at it and think right, well, there, there's, there's always going to be other platforms available to people, there's always going to be other options, you know, it's like, but you got to think what differentiates the other from the other. I mean, if you look at hosting, for example, unless you are getting like hundreds and 1000s of website visitors every day, you know, you can't really differentiate one hosting from another. That's just me thinking, right?

Freddy Owen  

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Paul Mottley  

And, you know, you got to look at it. And, I mean, let's, let's just use an example right now. And we're not dissing anybody here now. Because you know, what people do and the time they put into it is amazing. And, you know, everything has its own place. But what happened to builderall?

Freddy Owen  

Oh, gosh, don't I'm not gonna do this. I'm just gonna be honest, it maybe you can say to this, I actually, it's still around. I got builder all to Funnellogics because I wanted to give another option to share funnels other than Clickfunnels, and I went back there just to see the ease of use. Oh my gosh, it maybe everything. Maybe I was just so use used to the ease of use of Clickfunnels I was back there. It was a nightmare for me. And it was just like too much. So yeah, but I get it. It's still around. But it didn't do anything for me as far as you know. And I started out with lead pages and not saying lead bad by any means, but when I went okay, so I went from Clickfunnels to lead paid lead pages to Clickfunnels. Okay, when I first started, I was doing using a plugin. I can't remember the name of the plugin. Okay, so I went from Clickfunnels lead pages to start using lead pages. I really liked the lead pages. So then I, you know, somebody said something like Clickfunnels. I was like, Okay, well and I When I learned something, I don't like to, like, learn something new by I started to dive in. And man, you know, there was a learning curve by any with anything's learning curve. But yes, they have the support when there's not. COVID is freaking phenomenal. And I dove in, and I wouldn't go back to lead pages unless your only reason I would consider leaving Clickfunnels is if the if they completely stopped caring. And I've seen software's do that. I've seen software's that went, I know, entrepreneurs that have had training platforms that they got people in, and then they lost interest, and they just stopped doing it. And that drives me freaking crazy.

Paul Mottley  

So you've got to watch, you've only got to watch some YouTube videos or some training. And sometimes, you know, you, you go to the platform that they were recommending or something like this, I did exactly the same. I was looking at a program, not a program, but like a, I think I paid for the training or something like that. And I'm not going to go into details. But when I went and sought the website out that they were using for a specific tool, it didn't exist anymore. It kind of disappeared in between. And obviously, the program or what I got wasn't updated. But I was very much like you But I, I started out with lead pages. But because I had this thing where I wanted to do other stuff, I wanted to be able to sell stuff online as well. And you know, do all this fancy stuff with funnels. At the time, it wasn't doing what I needed to do. If it was just generating leads for our bricks and mortar business, lead pages would have been perfect, been absolutely fine. And no problem. No questions asked. But I still needed more. And it was when I think I must have got that. I mean, Russell and his team know what he's doing as far as marketing goes. I mean, they hit me with an ad for.com secrets. I bought it, I bought the upsell, I got the book, I read it overnight on a trip back from the States, I got off the plane without feeling tired or the usual fatigue that you get on red-eye. And I was just buzzing with ideas. Next thing you know, I clicked into the funnel hacks, I bought the funnel hacks, which was like a six month deal for Clickfunnels along with this extra training, and my mind was blown, literally blown and, and that's when it all started kicking off. And I got plugged into various different things, affiliate programs, and everything like that. And it was the I mean, I literally like you say I Mean people always talk about I drank the Kool-Aid, basically. And I got hooked in, and you seem like one of the Avengers movies, you know that the second to last one? Do you know what it was? What was that called?

Unknown Speaker  

That's the one that would have all disappeared? Is it? Is the one well?

Paul Mottley  

Yeah, okay. Yeah. And you've got I don't know what the

Freddy Owen  

what he knows.

Paul Mottley  

The robot or, or the Android as it was his name, now trying to think. Jarvis. Was it Jarvis or whatever? He had this Infinity Stones token as far as?

Freddy Owen  

Oh, gosh, yeah, that was Yeah, sort of pressing.

Paul Mottley  

take you out. I know all this slight complication and this red stuff because it was so embedded into him. It was almost impossible to take out without killing him. That's kind of how I feel about Clickfunnels right now.

Freddy Owen  

No, it is, it's, it's amazing. And that's why I do. I love that. So if you're listening to this, you definitely wanna get Clickfunnels if you are on the fence, because Paul and I both agree on this, that it is by far, especially the ease of use, and they give you templates and stuff. It's super easy to use, and invest in yourself. Now you don't have to get the 290; I have the 297. You don't have to get that. You can get the 97, and I think they even have a 37 or 19

Paul Mottley  

nanoscopy. That's gone. It's gone. They got rid of it.

Freddy Owen  

Okay,

Paul Mottley  

I saw that. Now, this is probably not going to stand very well because obviously, this episode is going to go for a long time, but

Freddy Owen  

we're probably gonna split this episode into two episodes. Because it's so good. It's so good. So go ahead

Paul Mottley  

at the moment. I mean, I was lucky enough to advance myself through their dream car program, which means that I was able to sign up and maintain over 100 Clickfunnels account users. So that not only just got me the passive recurring income every month, but also a $500 a month bonus to a car. And because of that, um, I don't know, they put this label, it's not me, and they classified as Super affiliates. And recently, they literally, what is it now? I mean, as we're recording this, can I put a timestamp on this? Can I put a date? Yeah, right. September 3, for the entire of September, we've been given access to an exclusive offer, which all the standard affiliates are able to promote, which is called the RFA platinum. And I was speaking to Ben Harris things yesterday or the day before about this, and I can't believe how much value this has got to it. It's crazy, right? This is, this is like when I bought funnel hacks, which was 997 products, which had a couple of hours worth of training from Russell Brunson talking about how to do the whole make money online, and, you know, build funnels and everything, all the good stuff like that. But it was the full suite for six months, which I knew would save me around $700. Anyway, which made it an incredible deal. And then I look at what we've got now, in the RFA, Platinum, which still gets you six months for sweet. But it gets so much more as well. You've heard of that one funnel away. That product challenge? Yeah, which is like 30 days of coaching, which now is obviously all recorded from Russell Brunson. Steve Larson jus stole, and that's all there. But they also did a 30 days book as well, which at the time cost $200. And which was basically they went out to loads of different people. And they said, Okay, well, if you lose everything, what would you do for 30 days to get yourself back up there. So you've got all these experts talking, you literally from day one, I'll be doing this day two, I'll be doing this. It's kind of like a, and it's not even a blueprint, it is almost like a diary, going through the exact steps of what they would do. And anyone could identify with any one of those experts and repeat the process. It's crazy value. And even if 200 bucks was still awesome, right? They include that. Plus, they're actually doing a white-glove onboarding service, which basically means you're going to get access to someone in Clickfunnels, to get you set up, which means helping you set up, Clickfunnels yourself, you know, whether it be domains, whether it be SMTP, and all that tech stuff, and how to use the software. And we're going through how to build pages and everything like that, which is one of the most difficult things for anyone that's not done it before. Great bonus. No, yeah. But also as well, the Funnelflix Platinum, which they have, which is kind of like Netflix, but for entrepreneurs. And they've gone out and bought loads of programs from other experts, and license set to include. So you can go and check out a whole bunch of training from like, Tony Robbins that he only releases out on his paid programs, or, you know, add experts and all this good stuff. But not only that, as well, you're getting access to three sessions a day, where you can actually go in and, you know, like a zoom call with their trainers. So if you've got questions that you need answering, or if they just want to run through whatever, you've got three live sessions a day is a kind of like a crazy $25,000 mastermind that you're paying for. At any cost, 997

Freddy Owen  

Yeah, that's phenomenal.

Paul Mottley  

A stupid and even like the extra bonuses they put in, which was like the recording that they put behind the new edition of.com secrets that are all included. So there's like I think they went through that in like two days. They did another one for expert secrets live, and they did another one for Traffic Secrets life. It's nuts. And I just, I remember, I was talking dependences he seriously putting this out there right now. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Because if someone's paying like 297 a month for six months, they're paying What? On my brain to get 1782?

Freddy Owen  

Yo,

Paul Mottley  

I don't know; it's a crazy one. And I'm not trying to be a big fanboy here, but I just think they offer in particular is crazy.

Freddy Owen  

Yeah, it is. And it's okay to be a fanboy because Clickfunnels is awesome. I'm, I'm, I'm a huge fan as well. So, um, I, we had a plethora of knowledge on this. And we talked a lot about Clickfunnels, talked a lot about your story, talked about, you know, the things that you hate doing and what you'd like to see as far as automation. And that's huge. I'd love to have you on again.

Paul Mottley  

Yeah, we could.

Freddy Owen  

Yeah, cuz, cuz it's a lot of fun. And it's like a little mini mastermind. And, you know, I, every guest I have, and I've actually been on poles, podcasts, the ultimate affiliate marketing podcast, it's on iTunes, and Vuzzsprout. It's also on your website, Paul.Mottley.com, correct?

Paul Mottley  

I think so.

Freddy Owen  

Yeah. All motley calm. And one of the very interesting questions I'm gonna ask you is when you Um, so yeah, I think it'd be great to have the biggest regular because we can talk about things that we're passionate about. And one of them is Clickfunnels. Obviously, and knowing that you have to go through the grind to make things work and, and actually paying people to, to learn from them to get to where you want to be, just like you would pay a college $50,000 a year, my son's tuition in New York City was $43,000 a year, year. And it's crazy now. And the thing is, he's passionate about it. But you have to invest in yourself. Remember that say, That's yourself. If you're listening to this, you want to start an online business, and you have to invest in yourself; I'm not blowing smoke here; this is a fact. Okay, I'm not trying to sell you anything; I'm trying to tell you that if you want to actually, you know, make it online. And you learned to automate things, too, because automation is beautiful. It's a beautiful thing to have a digital product that you're sleeping or something set up that when you're sleeping, you're making money. It's just a beautiful thing. So realize that, but you have to go through the trenches, it ain't gonna be handed to you, unless you, you know, find someone to do it for you. But guess what, that's going to cost you a lot of money too. So just seriously, if you want something bad enough, you're going to go get it. And the thing is, I used to tell this when I was at the dealership, the technicians they would call off like on a Monday and a Thursday and, and but you know what, one thing they never called off was in most cases was a Friday. And that's payday because they wanted it; they wanted to get their paycheck. So if you want something bad enough, you're going to go ahead and do it. And I was crazy enough. When I first started out to quit my job. And the first year and a half are absolutely horrible. I'm not saying to quit your job by any means. Keep your job, and do it part-time. Because I know a lot of people that are doing that right now that are, you know, they put in a lot of hours to build their business. It's a business; treat it like one as simple as that. So am I being too harsh? So

Paul Mottley  

mean, this, let's look at one quick example. So now you're wrapping up. But when I was doing my brick and mortar business, right, when we did internal window dressings, right, which was like blinds, shutters, and all that sort of stuff. We had to go buy the samples, and I had to go buy tools for installation; I had to invest in progress is as simple as that. You know, and, and if a new product came out, and there was a training event, and I would go and pay for the training event because I wanted to learn how to do X, Y and Z. So you know, otherwise you could be missing out. It just makes sense.

Freddy Owen  

You know, my dad, my dad when he started his business back in, when I was a kid in Texas, it was the hardest thing because he had to close it down because the economy at that point in time was really rough in that part of Texas. But he put his he put everything in that business hours is savings in that business. It just didn't thrive because my dad was it he I got my entrepreneurial spirit from him. And when he says that it was economy because it was a depressed area. He was it was an automotive industry. It was that because my dad, you know, I remember him. He would do like radio shows. He put himself out there. He would spend money, and he did it because he wanted to, you know Be do better for his family to better for himself and leave a legacy. Leave a legacy for yourself if you want to do, you know, because either you're going to work for somebody or be you're going to work for yourself. So you have two choices. And I know that the one the first choice is the more comfortable choice work for somebody. The second choice is worth it for yourself. It's not gonna be comfortable. I don't think this. There are days where I'm relaxed. But what is comfort anyway? You know, I like being out of my comfort zone. I don't like tech issues, though. I'm not gonna lie to you when tech issues happen, or when your dogs run out, you know when you're trying to record a podcast? I don't like that. I'm telling you right now, and I don't like it. But no, I'm

Paul Mottley  

unemployable. Now.

Freddy Owen  

I couldn't imagine going back to the dealership because I would always have that in the back of my mind. And my wife, there was a point in time. Year, my first year and a half, I think I told you this house was in foreclosure; it was a nightmare. And the wife's looking at me, and she's like, what are we gonna do? And I was in the back of my head, okay, go back to the dealership, or keep pushing forward. Now I quit my job, which was a mistake. I should have. But honestly, it was a great learning experience as well. Because, you know, I, first of all, you don't, if somebody says you're gonna make so much money, you know, don't believe I'm okay. That's the first thing. So, but my point being is, is the I looked at her, and I was like, I'm not going to give up. And that next week, my mentor, Bob Beckett, invited me to go to a private mastermind, a live private in a hotel area. And who was there, Russell Brunson and Dagan Smith. And, and I didn't have anything to do with Clickfunnels at the time, I but I can tell you right now that one, it was they were recording something called the invisible funnel. If you go onto YouTube, you can look it up. And you could actually see me walking in with my skinny self walking in while they were teaching because I think it was on a lunch break or something. But I remember. Specifically, I want to soak in as much information, and I was the only broke entrepreneur in that room. But what that taught me was I looked around I'm like, and everybody was super nice. I got to meet Vince Reed. Have you ever met Vince Reed? Super nice guy. A lot of great people there. But I looked at him. I said You know what? If they can do it, I can do it. And

Paul Mottley  

I am overseas. We're done here. I'm literally looking at up.

Freddy Owen  

Oh, yeah, look it up, and you'll see me. I did serious I'll find the link, and I'll send it. Maybe I'll post the link, sort of embarrassing because I look very, I bet like pretty look pretty disheveled. Because in the evening they had special get-togethers at the bar and I don't remember what happened the night before. So but what I was saying is just stick with it. As Paul did, you know because he you can say this, you know, easily that you went through hard times. It's not. It's not always, you know, funding games, you got to work at it, and you're doing a podcast, guys go to the ultimate affiliate marketing podcast in iTunes. He doesn't ever have you broke that chain at all.

Paul Mottley  

Not every day, every day. Tonight will be up 111. So yeah, that's still going.

Freddy Owen  

And the thing is, it's gonna build traction, and it's going to get bigger and better. It's going to be awesome. So also, Paul is giving away free access to his ultimate affiliate toolbox. Make sure you guys check the show notes for today's episode, go to the show notes, and all that Paul has to offer is going to be on there the podcast as well as the free access to the ultimate affiliate toolbox. We're gonna be giving that away, so I don't want to. We're gonna have you on again. Okay, because I have more questions that I want to ask. And I want to like just dive into topics, and this is a great idea to have you on a lot more often. So real quick, I'm gonna do the quick hyper-fast q&a round. I'm just gonna ask you some crazy questions. What time is it there, by the way?

Paul Mottley  

We are looking at 721 in the evening.

Freddy Owen  

Okay, I thought it was a much different time. Okay, I was wrong. So here we go super hyper fast q&a around if you were able to be in an action movie and it was a buddy action movie. What actor would be your sidekick?

Paul Mottley  

Well, an actor would be my sidekick. And wow, I'd need some really good some really cool Keanu reeves.

Freddy Owen  

Keanu Reeves. Okay. Excellent, dude.

Paul Mottley  

Boy, you see you get through. You get it right,

Freddy Owen  

you get it. Oh, one of his best movies was Point Break. Fantastic. I love it, man.

Paul Mottley  

with Patrick Swayze, the absolute movie is up there with one of my favorites. I don't care what people say about him. He is such a cool dude. Right? And I need to quick-fire stuff now. But I remember watching this thing only recently. And he was on a talk show. And someone asked him, what do you think happens when you die? And his answer was, I know that people that love you will miss you. That's just him, right? That is just so him.

Freddy Owen  

But it's also talking about leaving a legacy. If you, I think if you dive a little deeper into it, they're gonna miss you. And you've got to love the people that are around you. So definitely, I love that answer. So if you had to, out of nowhere, start singing a song. What song would it be?

Paul Mottley  

Let me entertain you but Robbie Williams.

Freddy Owen  

Let me entertain you by Robbie Williams. I got to look that up. Robbie Williams

Paul Mottley  

karaoke favorite that would

Freddy Owen  

be like Oasis.

Paul Mottley  

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Wonderwall. Yeah, that's a good one to have a Pearl Jam. Yeah. Okay, excellent. Excellent.

Freddy Owen  

So we're on the same wavelength as Music Music even though I have never heard of Robbie.

Unknown Speaker  

I would have had

Paul Mottley  

it as Liam Gallagher from Oasis referred to him as the fat dancer and took that.

Freddy Owen  

Oh, friends.

Paul Mottley  

He slimmed down after that, but he had a very successful career over in the UK, so I have no to record for him for a while. But you know, he did some great stuff. Yeah, really great stuff. So just to check that one out.

Freddy Owen  

Excellent. An epic fee, says Helen. Your Honor. What's on the table? Chicken, fried chicken.

Paul Mottley  

And anything you can eat with your hands.

Freddy Owen  

Okay, so it's gonna be messy. Excellent. Okay. What's your favorite movie of all time?

Paul Mottley  

I'm gonna go. Do I have to pick one that?

Unknown Speaker  

I know

Freddy Owen  

but big one right now the top of your head that Shawshank

Unknown Speaker  

Redemption.

Freddy Owen  

Great movie. Excellent movie. I like planes, trains, automobiles. And my son just informed me that. Yeah, they're actually remaking this movie. The remaking the movie, and I told him I said I would watch it. Absolutely. But remakes usually stink. But it's with Kevin Hart. And Will Smith.

Paul Mottley  

I know. Interesting. Yeah, a lot of a combination.

Freddy Owen  

I think it would be funny.

Paul Mottley  

I'm not a big fan of remakes. I'm

Freddy Owen  

not a big fan at all. It could work because I like Kevin Hart is hysterical.

Paul Mottley  

I Will Smith is just like an absolute, you know, to quote I Am Legend. He is superb. He really is a massive, massive. I just glued to the screen every time he's on.

Freddy Owen  

Last question. Did you say Seinfeld or your Seinfeld fan?

Paul Mottley  

Y'all like that?

Freddy Owen  

What's your favorite episode?

Unknown Speaker  

Number two.

Freddy Owen  

Number two?

Paul Mottley  

episode.

Freddy Owen  

I don't know; you don't know, but never.

Unknown Speaker  

do. Okay, so

Freddy Owen  

you're sort of Okay, let me ask this because I thought it was like something to do with the bathroom. Okay, so uh, so y'all know the episode but let me ask a question if you had your choice, Kramer, Elaine, Jerry, or George as the next-door neighbor, who would it be?

Paul Mottley  

Definitely Kramer.

Freddy Owen  

Exactly. My point. Such a final thought. One last shout out to the party. Oh, show even though it's not gonna be the last shout out because you'll be on again very soon. That you can feel that could have an impact on them today right now. The last shout out.

Paul Mottley  

Sorry, I completely missed that. I was phased. I was still thinking about it, so I fell down for a second.

Freddy Owen  

serenity now. One last shout out to the Freddy O Show fam that you can feel can have an impact on them right now.

Paul Mottley  

Yeah. Well, I've just got to try and explain people to something that they can do or what

Freddy Owen  

No, no, no, like one last final thought, like something that to get them off their butt and to start doing something.

Paul Mottley  

Am I allowed to swear?

Freddy Owen  

This isn't an explicit podcast. So if you can, maybe bleep it out. Go ahead.

Paul Mottley  

Oh, man. Yeah, I would; I would say this So much bullshit out there. There are so many charlatans, and there are so many fake gurus, there are so many fake screenshots fake, this fake that you really got to fight through the chaff to get to the wheat and go and find what you really want, you know, really focus on exactly what you want. And it can't be just money. Because we can all go and earn money, right? I could go out tomorrow and get a job and earn money. Anyone can do that. I can go out to work and, and take three jobs and earn more money. It can't be just money; you got to figure out your why. Because that's the most important thing and you've got to enjoy what you do. If you are passionate about something, you will stay consistent. You will keep pushing on to get to your own goals. And that is the most important thing to do in life. And I think that's the most important thing to do in business.

Freddy Owen  

You had the fight to the chaff to get to the weed. Something like that. I like it. Paul, you're a rock star, man. Thank you so much, guys; check out the show notes. Paul motley. Thank you so much for being on today's show.

Paul Mottley  

But it has been my pleasure, man.

Freddy Owen  

Awesome.

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