How To Change Your Mindset and Finally Take That Jump To Greatness!

(Last Updated On: May 11, 2021)

Lee Chambers Wants Help You Develop a Resilient Mindset and Finally Take That Jump To Greatness! Episode #9 of The Freddy “O” Show.




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Lee Chambers is an Environmental Psychologist, Wellbeing Consultant and Certified Life Coach. He is the founder of Essentialise Workplace Wellbeing. Born in Bolton, in the north of the United Kingdom on May 22nd, 1985, he was the first member of his extended family to go to university. He holds a bachelor’s degree in International Business Psychology from Manchester Metropolitan University and an MSc in Environmental Psychology from the University of Surrey.


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Lee Chambers is an Environmental Psychologist, Wellbeing Consultant and Certified Life Coach. He is the founder of Essentialise Workplace Wellbeing. Born in Bolton, in the north of the United Kingdom on May 22nd, 1985, he was the first member of his extended family to go to university. He holds a bachelor’s degree in International Business Psychology from Manchester Metropolitan University and an MSc in Environmental Psychology from the University of Surrey.



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Freddy Owen: Today on the radio show, Lee chambers, he wants to help you develop a resilient mindset. And finally take that jump to greatness. His story is so inspiring and it's time to dig deep. Are you ready? Let's go Joe.

My Beautiful Wife: Thank you for listening to the Freddy O Show, a podcast devoted to you, the listener, your purpose, your mindset and your marketing efforts designed to help you go to that next level. Now here's your host, Fred do

Freddy Owen: Welcome to episode number nine of the radio show. I wanted to thank you so much for tuning in. Yes you It's always a pleasure to have you aboard and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. A friendly reminder that you can access all podcast show notes from today's episode at Win Win Fred calm also, the radio show is available on these other fine apps Apple podcast, Spotify, Google podcasts Stitcher, I Heart Radio, podcast. attic pod chaser Deezer overcast pocket casts Castro and cast box. I truly appreciate your support guys. It means the world to me. So Episode Number nine is about to take off. And today's guest has a story of perseverance, struggle, and honestly uncertainty. So let's dive in fam. Super excited to bring Lee chambers on board today. Lee, welcome to the radio show.

Lee Chambers: Thank you for having me on today.

Freddy Owen: So Lee, we are going to dive right in. Tell us who Lee chambers is. So

Lee Chambers: Lee chambers has many things but at the moment I'm an environmental psychology as well being consultant and founder essentialize workplace well being.

Freddy Owen: Okay, and as far as who you are as a person in general, what have you like, any big life altering things you went through? Yes. life in general.

Lee Chambers: Yes. Awesome. packet from the start. I grew up in the north of England, over here across the pond, and I had a good childhood, both my parents have blue collar workers, you know, they worked hard, instilled that work ethic. And we always have food on the table, a roof over our heads. And they kind of realized that I was quite young, I was gifted, I was quite intelligent. So I was getting good grades at school, never like, you know, getting yourself to university to be the first one in the family to go. It set the path for you know, future generations to belser go and do education as well as they wanted to. So I kind of worked hard for that gutsy University. And you know, I enjoyed the freedom and the autonomy at first. But I started to struggle in the middle, you know, all the years of not really trying very hard to catch up a little bit in terms of my academic performance. But more to the point I wasn't really prepared to make the adolescent to adult transition and am still quite young. I've not really had many failures before that point. So states struggle to express themselves authentically and I realized actually what I was doing maybe wasn't that passionate about it. But a lot of things came about that actually started to avoid and isolate myself a bit. So I ended up going home and then going back to uni again at a later point in time and finishing off. I've always had a passion for data and statistics and a passion for helping people so I was after finishing university I was like, What do I want to do? When I put thinking right so like figures I like, I started helping people to become a financial advisor from graduating 2007, now a good time to go and find a graduate job in finance, which I did, and then spent six months grafting working really hard to put my head above the water to Charlotte. I was one to keep not wanting to get rid of and middle 2800 And suddenly all the people have bought me a pack on the desktop. And I get pulled into the office and my boss is like, Yeah, I don't even know if my job says, but the tech and where the funding for your training. And I'm like, oh man that is. But then a few weeks later, I got pulled in again by a boss and said, Look, I'm getting ready, done. So you saw barf in the sandbar everybody but good luck. See your good blood. So I moved back home. I'm like, What do I do with my life? Literally I've designed this path and it's all been taken away in less than a year. And I sat there and I said to myself, you know what, I'm gonna have to build something that can't be made redundant from for my own business. I can't find myself. And if I sign up for my own qualifications and fair for him, I'm gonna go and do them because there isn't gonna be anyone telling me Oh, it's been defunded, because I pay for it. Yes. I thought that on a roll of it. I said The Video Game business, I went back working as well, thinking that I needed to really dig a bit deeper into different industries to really get a feeling of what I was going to do in the long term. For the video game business, it really took off. It was six figures within a year doubled in revenue in the second year and I suddenly found myself in a quite a handsome financial position. When I bought my first house and, you know, working and running the business and started doing qualifications in human farmers nutrition to add to my degree, and you know, things were going quite well. First Year, revenue doubles again, and all of a sudden I'm wondering, like, Whoa, this is life right? My wife hydrosol we will cruise around the Caribbean Holiday Inn in Florida. It was great. And we bought our first house together and our big family house society it was looking I was being connected, doing all right, and then in 2014 or A night for five days I went from you know, being me independent mobile doing whatever I wanted when I wanted to be stuck in hospital bed, my immune system and attacked my joints left me unable to walk but really left me unable to do the simple things. I couldn't even go to the toilet by myself. And I was like, boy,

Freddy Owen: This was your immune system.

Lee Chambers: Yeah, so it's the connective tissue in my joints. So it's getting much and all of a sudden, over the course of a few days, my knees suddenly looked like footballs.

It was it was agony, and

Freddy Owen: very scary

Lee Chambers: Oh, but I was in shock at first read it. I was like, man, I thought it was happening. And it sought those five days. It happened to my wrist first, and I thought most or most have just got on the computer too much this week. And then it happened to my knee and then knew I was it. I knew I was in trouble then. But you know, you're your mom. I was like 29. So I was like, you know, because the doctors get some medication. It'll be fine. You'll be fine. bulletproof. I'll be right. Yeah. A few days later and different hospitals like completely and awfully not fine so many ways. And I was in shock. But why is six months pregnant with my daughter? My son is two months old. It was challenging. My son was looking at me with big eyes like Daddy, why can't you get up and play? And my wife's coming after work to help me shala silently feed myself. You know?

That's crazy. It was hot.

Freddy Owen: Going from going from one extreme to the other. Like being on top of the world and then boom, you're in a hospital bed. You can't move. You know you've had to your knees were like, blowing up right there like, like swelling.

Lee Chambers: Yeah, so swelling. So when I got to the hospital, they started trying to control it. And they drained

so much fluid off my knees. It filled up like two beakers worth of fluid.

It wasn't pleasant.

Freddy Owen: Well, guess what? You're talking to me right now. So that's a great thing. Oh, yeah. And obviously you overcame that. So before we go over how you overcame that and where you are right now in life, and first of all, I think a lot of people would be, I could only imagine being tested like that. And life in general goes out of nowhere, five days of five day span goes by and you've slowly but surely deteriorated until where you came and walked. You're in the hospital bed. And did they know what was wrong right away.

Lee Chambers: Now, somebody texted me a lot but fairly early on. did realize My main system was attacking something, they just started trying to find out exactly what it was attacking. And what they can do, they got to a point where they realized that no matter how it's attacking, all the treatments are the same. So we're going to stop putting needles in you and stop testing for all these things and just try to treat you as effectively as we can. And obviously, then I was looking more towards after a month in hospitals, they finally discharged me. And I went into walking rehab and started the process of re learning to walk again through that and intensive physio, and hydrotherapy. And no doubt, it was a really challenging time my daughter was born and I couldn't do a lot of things right to adapt a lot of my house so I could do things and you know, I could hold my weight with my hands and my arms and so I started installing handles and things like that, but I went from rehab and gradually got better and better and hours. And that was gonna be running around the garden with my children. I saw my daughter there, you aren't just born and said, in a few months, she's going to be trying to walk. And I'm going to be trying to walk with her. So let's go on this journey together. And I really anchored into that on those mornings when I was in agony. I was in pain, I was stiff. I didn't want to stretch my exercises. But I decided it wasn't going to be how I felt it was going to be who I was going to become. And I had that mission. I was going to attack this disease as much as attacking me, I was going to take 100% ownership of my recovery and my health outcomes. And I was going to be proactive, I was going to do everything I could to get back on my feet and get the best health that I could. I've just decided that realizing that actually I should be grateful for everything that I had in the past. I've never once been grateful for walking until I lost it. And then I realized Don't be grateful enough to the people who are helping me and the simple facts are born and brought up in the UK. You know, I have free healthcare, free education for your business, you know, never horrible, never hungry. Like, why should I sit there and feel sorry for myself. And that's what happened. I kind of flipped that switch and just realized I'm gonna go for this. You know, I'm all in on recovery. And that man that after 11 months, I walked a mile without any ads. And then I was like, You know what, what else can I achieve? Man, I can push this potential further surely.

Freddy Owen: That's, that's awesome. Man. I just can only imagine being able to flip that switch. And obviously Lee is into mindset and you know, life coaching, plus more, but I want to go back to this, okay, because you brought up having your own video game business. Okay, so you just sold that that was called foenum games. Yeah, he recently sold it. So I don't want to have to talk about the ups and downs with that. So obviously, that was something that he didn't really have a lot of downs with. It was more like You got in at the right time, and it was like, boom. And you know, everything was going well, and then 2014 hit. And you still had that business?

Lee Chambers: Yeah. So, I mean, what kind of happened, I was on the e-commerce boom. So from an entrepreneurial perspective, I was quite switched on. And I was agile and dynamic, because it was a small company, you know, I was reaching seven figures, and it was me and a bunch of automations. But then, and in so many ways, I was pushing that needle. And I look back, and I made lots of mistakes when I reflect on it. And yet that paid for me, not only to you know, the lifestyle that I had, that also allowed me to work that business while I was recovering. So that's another thing I was incredibly grateful for. If I had a physical job, I wouldn't have any income, how much would that affect my financial well being when we're trying to recover and just become well? Well, I've pivoted the company into wholesale moving down the supply chain. So I started to see that the e-commerce side was starting to morph and evolve away from what I was offering. And that digital download, and over elements will come in that we're taking elements of, we're going to take elements of revenue for me in the long term. So I moved down the supply chain and started to leverage my own network and connections to deal in bigger volumes, which then still gave me the revenue with considerably less work. And that was a vital move that then allowed me to run that business from a hospital bed with one hand.

Freddy Owen: That's crazy. And it's what I'm talking to you now fabulous and I just, actually this is the first time I've ever talked to Lee Okay, I've been blessed to meet a lot of amazing people. And just like I love doing this Because usually, sometimes I talk to people that I've known for a while, but the last four guests I've talked to, this is the first time I get to talk to them. So I'm like, it's like, I'm shaking Lee's hand right now. And I get to hear his story like this. And to me, it seems like you are a very critical thinker as far as what to do with it when it comes to business. Like, do you go by feeling or by? Like you said, you like data and stuff, when you made that switchover in your business? Because here's the thing, a lot of people that are going to be listening to this are in two entrepreneurship groups. A lot of people are trying to start their own business. What was it that was at the numbers that you notice something was a mock? Or did you say on top of things as far as like, news trends, what was it that caused you to flip the switch to go to distribution?

Lee Chambers: Yeah, so in so many ways, I've always been interested In the past five, probably my superpower if I had one, and I kind of saw the trends, and it's the kind of business it moves so quickly, if you're not agile and dynamic, you get left behind. So I was always six months in front, predicting what was gonna happen, looking at previous data and understanding and, you know, building algorithms. So I had that kind of processing. And yet what I've come to realize looking back is a lot of those decisions were made on gut feeling, based on data presented a certain way. And I was kind of I was always on my toes, because then again in 2016, when Brexit hit us a step back and thought, right, what's gonna potentially happen here, terrorists, currencies are all over the place. And in a month, I switched my rations from the whole of Europe and my UK operations and our freight. It is solely from Europe. And that, again, was a decision so pretty quickly. And did the terrorists and currency issues come as I predicted? No, they didn't. But I probably would have been able to sell the business in the world if I hadn't made that move at that time. And I suppose in business, a lot of things happen for a reason, when things don't go the way that you want. It's amazing data to tell you Firstly, what didn't go well. Secondly, a little bit of what you might want to do in the future. And thirdly, a little bit of treasure, you know, a profit nugget of gold that you can utilize going forward on your next venture or your next pivot. But you've got to kind of step back and realize it's not you who's failed. It's just the process that's failed. And that's having that mindset where you actually see what's coming and don't see it as a frat and put your shield up. We see it as a challenge for you to step up and be more as a person as a Mars entrepreneur steps up into that challenge, steps through that dollar for fear and utilizes your intuition to share a man's moves that share up that status quo. But because it's the disruptors out here, the people that look at things in more than one dimension, that have been successful in such a dynamic and agile world that we live in.

Freddy Owen: That's crazy, because one of my questions to you was gonna be regarding fear, and how, you know, being in this industry since 2012, I've seen a lot of people come and go. And it's crazy because a lot of it's due to fear and due to fear of failure, and I like how you said, you know, go ahead and attack it, instead of, you know, shielding yourself back and don't get me wrong. I've talked about this in the past, I've had to overcome fears. And it's crazy because it can paralyze you. It can just keep you in your tracks and you can't do anything . It's an amazing thing when you overcome fear. So you obviously have the mindset of just conquering fear and going forward. And like a lot of people say fail forward, you're not really failing, the only way you fail is if you quit. You're going to maybe make bad decisions here and there, but as long as you learn from your decisions, that's when it becomes key.

Lee Chambers: Corral Yeah. So many ways there are entrepreneurial ism is business experimentation. You quote there and you try. In fact, you fail if you don't try. And that sounds ludicrous, because people are like, well, what if it goes wrong? Like life goes wrong? Literally entrepreneurial ism is like the seasons. Summer is great. And you know, your revenue turnovers up, everything's going right. Winter is gonna come. It's a businessman who realized that I'm gonna work hard in summer. It's good though. But I'm gonna work hard and realize that you know, when fall comes it is gone. Get bought at some point but hell, I've been doing this I'm still doing this I'm still learning it like a beginner tree like a science experiment at school puts you love calm. That's what you do every day because the world doesn't stop and therefore as an entrepreneur, you can't stop. He was never truly a success. As soon as you think you're a success, you stop and look at everyone around you moving forward. And again, in a world are so many people jumping on the latest trend. Well, yeah, that someone's making millions of pounds doing that I'm gonna go and do that. The retention I bonded with boat entrepreneurs, most of them have been doing what they've been doing for so long. That's where you accrue the value over time to continue doing it in the face of adversity in the face of challenge, pivoting and shaping what you're bringing to market and yet when you first start, get a minimum viable product out there and Any volvik churnet, take the data, set the feedback, build it, what needs to be come, but don't stand there and expect to deliver perfect first time, which is another reason why so many people don't start because you literally stood there like an archer,

but ready and am not ready and don't expect it to be perfect just fire and then make it work from there.

Freddy Owen: I have somebody that this conversation will be perfect for. So I'm excited to share it with them. So yes, I completely agree with you and you made a good statement. As you know people one of the biggest questions is, well, what if it goes wrong? Well, one of my biggest responses then is what if it goes right? You have to just like you said, you gotta shoot, you gotta shoot. So that let's go back to you overcoming your five days, I can only imagine it was more than five days obviously. But the five days and then You being in the hospital bed? Was there an epiphany at that point in time? Obviously you were grateful that you were okay after all was said and done. What did you feel after that happened? Was there something that turned another light switch on?

Lee Chambers: Yeah, so I've kind of gone into hospital and that initial shock hit me as the realization of what had happened, but not really understanding what had happened. And then all of a sudden came all the pain relief drugs flowing off onto another planet initially. And after that kind of faded away, I knew I had to let the negative emotion come for suppressed it, come back and bite me at some point in the future. So at first I was frustrated now I was angry. I was like, I'm young. I'm healthy. I've looked after myself. This amphur Why me? Why no. And I let that light happen like a phone as follows. Talk to people and say, I got it. I need to get it out. And then that kind of pass. And then I got grief. So I was like, I'm physical, I'ma fly sick. Now I've got kids, and I don't know what's gonna happen. I'm not gonna be walking again. And you know, we all have that, don't we all have that negative emotion? There's a reason why we have that whole range of emotions from blessing joy to desperate despair. It's so we can live a human experience. You've got to feel those things and let them come. And yet in the second week after that grief has started to subside South there in the hospital bed and thought, you know what, you're gonna have some work for yourself. There's a point where you're gonna have to think, what's my future like, I need to grab it. And I thought to myself, and I fell asleep. I woke up and the actual turning point was one that popped into my head. The simple question, have you ever been grateful for being able to walk? That's what switched me on. Because then that made me think, not being grateful at all for so many things. And I was on a ward there with three elderly gentlemen. And they said, You know what, you're young. You've got lots, he got a lot of lives to live, go out there and do it. Don't let boundaries and limits hold you back and not plus the gratitude that just made me think, right, I'm gonna have to choose to move forward, and it's gonna hurt. It's gonna be painful. But what would be more painful is resisting the suffering. And that will be pain. So life. I was going to go through this bit of physical pain now, but I'm going to push forward, my head is moving forward, even if my legs are on and that released on Cubby, and that was the switch just knowing that I was going to move a mat progress. And I felt like I was like a human being wobbling and I thought, you know what? As long as I can control this wobble I'll be moving. I don't want to stand still. Because standing still means that you're not moving forward you're not evolving you're not growing.

Freddy Owen: Yeah. I love your attitude. So now right now, at this point in time, your life coach wellbeing trainer. Like for instance, Can people have the opportunity to work with you? How do they get to work with you?

Lee Chambers: So yeah, I, I only have a limited number of clients and that's all I can give people. A full 360 degree experience. If you want to be one of my clients, you can visit my website that will be in the show notes. I can reach out to me on social media friendly. I'll put that in there as well. And our bell sidebars exactly what I can offer you, and you can advise me what you want me to explore

Freddy Owen: Yeah, and that's one thing I was gonna bring this up. So he's also going to be giving away a free ebook. So when the show notes when with Fred calm, go there in the show notes, you're gonna be able to get the living authentically 80 ways to find your purpose, you can take advantage of that that's gonna be in the show notes plus, everything else that he has to offer is going to be in the show notes to where you can contact them. So definitely you want to look at the show notes. So Lee, what do you feel your biggest strength when it comes to helping people is because I know that you talked about purpose sometimes?

Lee Chambers: Yes. So a lot of it is the truth is, all the answers are inside of you already. So there's no magic Dom bringing in terms of answers. You have the answers. I just asked the powerful questions that help you unlock yourself. They help you chisel that purpose. They help you find what your values are deep down beyond where you are, but the biggest thing that I can offer you is the permission to Go out there and fail. Go out there and try new things, go and experience things and start to break down those beliefs, limits and habits that are holding you back from reaching your potential. You don't know what your potential is until you start chasing it. So many of us go through the world and we say, well, society says what our mind says to us. None of that's true. You can do amazing things and you have everything you need inside of you. I'm just like a big key on lockset fire.

Freddy Owen: That's awesome. That's awesome. So I know you talked about having a resilient mindset. I think I get what that means. Basically, the mindset of continually moving forward, conquering or attacking anything that you feel is coming against you. And pivoting to where if you see something going on, in a bad situation, you pivot to the better situation, correct.

Lee Chambers: Yeah. And so anyways, life fraus punches at you all the time. You just got to be ready to wobble for robble for every punishment, like you'd say, but know that you can continue walking forward. Never stop. And just keep learning and keep evolving. keep changing. Keep trying. Just life is a massive experiment as soon as you stop experimenting.

You stop studying now.

Freddy Owen: Yeah. So true. So true. Now, quick question. You 2014 you had your issue, he couldn't walk, are you?

Lee Chambers: Is everything okay now? So I can't really run particularly well, but I can walk for miles now. And that's massive. And the biggest thing is, I was on medication that stopped my immune system. And I've managed to come off that by optimizing my sleep, my nutrition and my movement, and it's taken me six years to do that. But last month, I finally had my last dose of medication and not sit now I'm living without taking medication and controlling this disease lifestyle a lot.

Freddy Owen: That's fantastic. So I was going to actually bring this up. I know you talk about sleep nutrition, I actually just got a nutritionist, and he's been helping me out a lot. I feel better. So you talk about sleep nutrition. And so what type of morning routine Do you have to do on a daily basis, and that sets the stage for an awesome day that you think it's like, for instance, sleep and nutrition? What are some of your secrets?

Lee Chambers: Yeah, so my morning routine is I wake up at 6am, wash my face, drink a glass of water, and then I spend 30 minutes before my children wake up. spending some time to reflect on myself. So not fun. I'm not into email, news or social media. That's not what people's wells and other people's agendas are. I don't need that first thing in the morning. I need to be in my world. So I'll spend some time to even meditate, reflect but silence. Maybe even some prayers are just really looking deep into me. You know, why am I? Why am I here to do it? I know I'm here to do it. I have a little Iki guy card by the side of my bed reader every morning. You know why he started, he did that by itself. Now I'll do a bit of exercise, or listen to a little bit of a podcast, this would be a great one, split it up, you know, six, seven minutes, every day for a week, get an insight from each period. You know, Friday comes out with all sorts of amazing stuff. So utilize that listen to it positivity straightaway, read a page of a book. You know, Germany farts, get your mind onto some paper, walk around the block and get some sunlight in your eyes. Not so I start my mornings and all of a sudden you're on fire before you've even gone and done any work before you even gone and give your kids breakfast like I do not spend that sound my kids. I really enjoy it. You know, I'm connected. I'm suddenly a lot more patient than I would have been. Just walk it off and they've been jumping on me. And it's like, then drop my kids off at school and boom, I'm into work. I'm on fire every single day, because not only am I really purposeful, and I'm on a mission to impact the health, well being of millions of people before I go to the other plan, but I've actually set it up. So I'm ready. And I'm moving. I've got the momentum from that first minute that I wake up, and I'm there and I suggest everyone do something similar. Everyone has the ability to have a bit of time either at the start of the day or the end of the most people in the middle you working, you know, you know, as much control, start to build those routines and start to look at the tiny small things that you can do. Right? Don't try and meditate for two hours. Start with a few minutes, gradually build it up. They compound so quickly when you do lots of little things that are positive. Think you will not win the spiral. That's what happened. When you start to do these little things, and you don't see anything amazing straightaway at the start, because they're on the small, give it a year, you feel like a different person.

Freddy Owen: I think that's what a lot of people struggle with is that instant gratification that that I want everything now and then they're okay with going back to where they were beforehand. And a lot of it's like, for instance, nutrition. It's, you know, I know friends that were trying to lose weight and, and I've been through this to where, you know, you eat a couple Oreo cookies and you're like, oh, man, I'm just gonna beat myself up and wait, the whole package. And before you know what you're eating sugar and Oreo cookies, you know, for the rest of the week and you completely forget about why you started. I think if people were to remind themselves and take the time to reflect, remind themselves, why are they doing what they're doing? And I like what you said earlier in the conversation that when you were doing I think you said you flip the switch on you weren't were you passionate about something and you're able to, like make that realization that okay, I'm not passionate about this. I'm gonna flip the switch, what is comfortable? What exactly is comfortable? Because, you know, when I first started doing this, the first year and a half were absolutely horrible. My wife was looking at me like, what are we gonna do? You know, she was comfortable with me at my old job because we had a paycheck coming in every week. And, and I understand that, but comfortable and happy are two different things. Comforting and finding your purpose are two different things. And I think that you have really shown that with your journey thus far in your life.

Lee ChambersYeah, I mean, so be comfortable and grow at the same time, because it's uncomfortable uncertainty that helps us step into growth.

Freddy Owen: It's crazy. It's like when I first jumped out of an airplane, I was terrified, terrified, and it was the fear of it. But when I got halfway up It's like I felt a sense of calm and I'm like you know what I'm gonna go and do this now of course it could have ended badly but most cases it then it was fine and a blast doing it. You gotta take chances, you know, and for me when I jumped off and liked you since you started your business you know you could still right now be at the same company you where you're at in 2008 but life helps direct you as well. Because of what happened in 2008

Lee Chambers: Yeah, definitely. And it kind of if you think about that jump

you can either get the job all live for Porsche

Freddy Owen: and the crazy thing is one of the guys on the plane ended up going down with the plane as far as he didn't jump. And I was like, Why Why wouldn't you jump and I but I get it. Some people are just scared. But fear is, a lot of times what we're scared of isn't even real. And it's nuts. You know, we think that people are looking at us, you know, funny when they're not looking at us funny, they're looking at us like we're a person is this we gotta get out of our own heads. I think that's what a lot of times we get into our own heads. And you yourself, were able to do that in a lot of different, you know, instances. So I commend you for that. That's awesome. So real quick, let's switch to this day and age. Yeah, a lot of people have been transitioning home, because working from home losing their jobs, what can you say to them? Like, I think you've already said it, but let's reiterate the point that, you know, they're facing this pandemic. I don't know how it is in the UK. It's been scary for a lot of people. There's a lot of crazy things happening in this world. What would you say to them as far as how to combat that and and like for instance, if they have to work at home, I know that I first struggled, you know, when I stopped working at home, I was all over the place. So, you know, do you have a secret power that you stay focused and get massive amounts of work done? And what would you say to them as far as, okay, you lost your job, or you have to work from home, you got screaming kids in the background, you know,

What do you tell them?

Lee Chambers: Yeah, so I think there's so many ways, this is a massive experiment that couldn't happen in any other format. And, first, the first thing is for people to realize there's a lot of other people going through this. It's a shared human experience. And in a normal situation, when people get remote working privileges, it's like a six month transition. So here's some trend on technology. And here's half a day to be climatized. And you know, we're going to do this for you and we're going to help you with your home working situation and we're going to buy you a chair. And for most people across the world, they suddenly have to go from office to home in a week with no training. But none of that period to adapt and a climb size. So the first thing is for those people, you've done amazing, given the circumstances, give yourself a pat on the back and realize that what you've done is something that most companies before this would have said is not possible. They can't transfer to remote work in a week. Well, you have, you've proven a pint. And actually, Shawn, that is definitely possible. The most important thing for all this is Corbin has taken away our routines. It's taken away a lot, a lot of the things and a lot of the choices that we had the ability to see here, we want to go where we wanted. And we human beings don't like losing the choice because we live in a world where there's about 37 different sauces to put on our chips. So it's like, you know, suddenly when you can't do anything, it doesn't feel good. And yet through this period, people have shown they started looking out for the community. They started speaking to people with intention. This is Died locked out then realizes lots of great things that we can do. We weren't grateful for them before. It's like me, I wasn't grateful for walking. So I lost it. This has come along. And a lot of people are really grateful for those things that they were just doing every day. And no, they couldn't do them. And in that situation, really, it's about homework and getting used to the fact that you can build a routine yourself. It's actually a really good way to design your own life. And there's absolutely no doubt, suddenly your own environment where you live in, you're educating, you're working, you're relaxing, you're sleeping, it's not designed for that. So you've got to try and design it as well as you can. And I could go on about this for at least an hour because it's a big part of my work. To really boil it down. Try to get yourself into a working mindset. walk around the block, leave home, come back into work, get dressed in something that you feel is work, try and section off a space to work in Other people in your vicinity, you're living with your family, your housemates, help them communicate really clearly with them. So they have the boundaries they know when not to disturb you and have that communication clear, have a schedule, have dinner time, have breaks to disconnect from work so you can reconnect stronger again. And for those people who've been made redundant, it is a challenging time. And yet, you're not redundant. You have an opportunity in this crisis, to reinvent yourself to become something more and understand that as environment your financial well being, it won't feel great, you'll be really worried about the evictions about the next paycheck. And yet, if we set the umpire head in the sand and fall back into our shell, things aren't going to get better and it annoys us hard. But go out there and realize that you've got talents inside you guess probably things you've not even experimented with yet. Because you are just spending a stable job. But in this world, get out there. There's a lot of things you can use. Get yourself on LinkedIn, or Facebook and start messaging about what you can do. Start to access all the free materials to help you develop yourself and start to think this isn't bad. Yeah, is bad. But how can you turn bad to good? How can you turn bad? so great? How can this be a chance for you to pause and think actually what I was doing? I didn't even like that anyway. But maybe now is a chance for me to go and do something that I do like, and you know what, it's not gonna be easy, because going out and doing new things. It takes practice at first, and yet this is a perfect time. And I just said, a lot of my clients were really struggling. I'll say, really, human beings are a bit like a business. So in the economic crash where I lost my job, I was feeling sorry for myself. That's an economic crash, created by Uber and Airbnb, who then went into too many traditional industries and completely disrupted them and shifted the models of how it works in crisis comes innovation, creativity, and people who are willing to smash the status quo and do something differently. And maybe this is just a chance for you as a human being to go out there and do something differently. While everyone else is hiding. You go, step into it, step up. This is your challenge. All the great presidents of America didn't get to be remembered for who they were, because of what they did when it was great. They remembered they have legacy because when the world turned against them, when the challenge hit their steps up, that's what you want. You want a legacy of being someone who makes a change who changes the world. Not in the summer, but in the winter.

Freddy Owen: is a mic drop there. That was fantastic. That was great. fantastic So, guys, Lee chambers. All this stuff is going to be on one with I could talk to you for hours Lee. So I'm going to definitely have you on again because this was fun, but Leach with Fred calm look at this show notes, get his ebook living authentically 80 ways to find your purpose. Connect with him on social media. You're a wealth of knowledge and we're about to go into the super fast hyper fast q&a around, have some fun here and ask you some crazy questions. So are you ready for this? I'm ready.

Man, I just

Mic drop. Okay,

so here we go.

Freddy Owen:I want real quick before I start this, I gotta say something to you . You seem to be a big proponent of personal accountability and I love that. In other words, you kept on saying you, you and and that and putting your head in a shell and putting your head in the sand. That's just it's so true people. It's crazy. Cuz right now and I brought this up in the past in America at least one of the busiest places in our neighborhood is the liquor store. People are going that route to solve their problems and it goes back to personal accountability. So I really appreciate that and I think that a lot of people listening to this are gonna appreciate that as well. So thank you so here we go super hyper fast q&a round. Okay, just some fun questions. If life were a video game, what would some of the cheat codes be? Your game industry so this

Lee Chambers: will definitely invincibility ability to fly and get bigger, bigger than you are and bigger than you were yesterday.

Freddy Owen: Real quick before I go to the next one, do you still play video games ever?

Lee Chambers: Not Not to be honest because it got to a point where I couldn't play all my stock.

Freddy Owen: Okay, okay, cool. So if you could replace all the grass in the world with something else what would it be and why?

Lee Chambers: Gotta be pictures.

Freddy Owen: Ah, okay. You found a time machine you took that took 600 years. You found a time machine that took you back 600 years. All you have on is a T-shirt and boxers. How do you tell people that you're from the future?

Lee Chambers: I don't say and I do the splits.

Freddy Owen: I think that'd be right, especially 600 years. What artists are bands always recommend when someone asks you for music recommendation.

Lee Chambers: The Muse

the muse. Yep.

Freddy Owen: Okay. And then an epic feast is telling your honor what's on the tape. A

Lee Chambers: a lot of pizza.

Freddy Owen: Ah, you like pizza? I love it and the thing is that my nutritionist has been lowering the carbs. So yeah it's sorry is right it's not fun. But you know what? I'm gonna be able to eat my pizza when I get to my goal so fantastic. So one last shout out to the front row fam that you feel can have an instant impact on them right now. One thing of advice

Lee Chambers: Yeah. Don't worry about failing, stand next door that you fear. I'll put it step through it on the other side of that door is everything you want your potential to grow off of literally, you live on the other side. Don't just stand there, go for it. Jump off the edge. Don't be pushed out of the plan. Jump out yourself. Take ownership too.

Freddy Owen: Dang, this was a good interview. Lee chambers. Thank you so much my friend. Thank you once again today's guests Lee chambers. Truly inspiring and also thank you to you as well for tuning into today's episode of the Freddy O Show. Also make sure you head over to to check out the show notes. All that Lee has to offer. It'd be well worth your time to do that. We're coming to the finish line of episode number nine. This is Freddy O, and until next time, fam. Keep pushing forward and always stay hungry.

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